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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" version="2.0"><channel><title>Recent Posts from Latter-day Saint Blogs Tagged "margaret-barker"</title><link>http://www.NothingWavering.org</link><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="http://www.nothingwavering.org/posts//feed"/><description><![CDATA[Latter-day Saint Blog Portal]]></description><language>en-us</language><pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:59:00 -0700</pubDate><lastBuildDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:59:00 -0700</lastBuildDate><docs>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss</docs><generator>NothingWavering.org Application Framework</generator><managingEditor>editor@nothingwavering.org (Administrator)</managingEditor><webMaster>admin@nothingwavering.org (NothingWavering.org Administrator)</webMaster><item><pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:59:00 -0700</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_79336</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Interpreter Radio Show — March 2, 2025</title><link>https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-march-2-2025/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Administration</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>&#160; In the March 2, 2025 episode of The Interpreter Radio Show, our hosts are Martin Tanner, Brent Schmidt, and Hales Swift. They discuss Come, Follow Me Doctrine &#038; Covenants lesson 13, Margaret Barker, perfectionism, and other topics. You can listen to or download the March 2nd broadcast of the Interpreter Radio Show below. These [&#8230;]</p>
The post <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-march-2-2025/">Interpreter Radio Show — March 2, 2025</a> first appeared on <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org">The Interpreter Foundation</a>.<br/><a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-march-2-2025/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="https://cdn.interpreterfoundation.org/ifaudio/Interpreter-Radio-CFM-2025-context-lesson-13.mp3" length="72879421" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:59:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_78958</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Interpreter Radio Show — November 3, 2024</title><link>https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-3-2024/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Administration</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>&#160; In the November 3, 2024 episode of The Interpreter Radio Show, our hosts are Martin Tanner, Brent Schmidt, and Hales Swift. They discuss Come, Follow Me Book of Mormon lesson 48, the Margaret Barker Seminars, Saints Volume 4, the new Church garments, the recent articles in Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and [&#8230;]</p>
The post <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-3-2024/">Interpreter Radio Show — November 3, 2024</a> first appeared on <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org">The Interpreter Foundation</a>.<br/><a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-3-2024/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="https://cdn.interpreterfoundation.org/ifaudio/Interpreter-Radio-CFM-2024-context-lesson-48.mp3" length="90794197" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2024 10:59:00 -0700</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_78876</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Interpreter Radio Show — October 13, 2024</title><link>https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-october-13-2024/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Administration</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>&#160; In the October 13, 2024 episode of The Interpreter Radio Show, our hosts are Martin Tanner, Kevin Christensen, and Mark Johnson. They discuss Come, Follow Me Book of Mormon lesson 45, the Six Days in August film, the upcoming Margaret Barker’s Master Classes on the Hebrew Scriptures, and recommended books. You can listen to [&#8230;]</p>
The post <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-october-13-2024/">Interpreter Radio Show — October 13, 2024</a> first appeared on <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org">The Interpreter Foundation</a>.<br/><a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-october-13-2024/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="https://cdn.interpreterfoundation.org/ifaudio/Interpreter-Radio-CFM-2024-context-lesson-45.mp3" length="76140757" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 13:00:00 -0700</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_76389</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Interpreter Radio Show — August 13, 2023</title><link>https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-august-13-2023/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Administration</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>&#160; In this episode of The Interpreter Radio Show, our hosts are Terry Hutchinson and Kevin Christensen. During the final hour they are joined by Jared Marcum, the author of a recent article in Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship, “Withstanding Satan’s Siege through Christ’s Iron Rod: The Vision of the Tree [&#8230;]</p>
The post <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-august-13-2023/">Interpreter Radio Show — August 13, 2023</a> first appeared on <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org">The Interpreter Foundation</a>.<br/><a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-august-13-2023/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="https://cdn.interpreterfoundation.org/ifaudio/Interpreter-Radio-CFM-2023-context-lesson-37.mp3" length="78974519" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2023 11:10:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_75660</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Interpreting Interpreter: Responding to Barker’s Critics</title><link>https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreting-interpreter-responding-to-barkers-critics/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Kyler Rasmussen</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[
 
The Takeaway
Christensen responds to a set of critiques arrayed against the work of Margaret Barker and the use of her work by Latter-Day Saints, arguing that she is often dismissed—not because of the weakness of her ideas–but because they fail to align with the prevailing historical paradigm.
 
The Summary
In this article, which is continuation from an essay published by Interpreter in November 2022, Kevin Christensen provides responses...<br/><a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreting-interpreter-responding-to-barkers-critics/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description></item><item><pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2023 10:59:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_75659</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Twenty Years After “Paradigms Regained,” Part 2: Responding to Margaret Barker’s Critics and Why Her Work Should Matter to Latter-day Saints</title><link>https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/twenty-years-after-paradigms-regained-part-2-responding-to-margaret-barkers-critics-and-why-her-work-should-matter-to-latter-day-saints/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Kevin Christensen</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[Abstract: Here I address specific criticisms of Margaret Barker’s work. First, I set the stage by discussing Thomas Kuhn’s The Structure of Scientific Revolutions as a map and compass for navigating this kind of controversy. I show how his observations cast light on debates about Jesus in the Gospel of John, which in turn resemble present debates. In this context, I then consider some notable criticisms of Barker’s work as “not mains...<br/><a href="https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/twenty-years-after-paradigms-regained-part-2-responding-to-margaret-barkers-critics-and-why-her-work-should-matter-to-latter-day-saints/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="https://cdn.interpreterfoundation.org/jnlartaudio/christensen-v55-2023-pp31-106-AUDIO.mp3" length="35002089" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2022 10:59:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_75394</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Interpreter Radio Show — November 20, 2022</title><link>https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-20-2022/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Administration</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>&#160; In this episode, our hosts Bruce Webster, Kris Frederickson and Martin Tanner introduce our new show format. Each show will be divided into a number of segments that may vary from week to week. One segment will provide information that will supplement the study of the Come, Follow Me lesson material for 2023 and [&#8230;]</p>
The post <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-20-2022/">Interpreter Radio Show — November 20, 2022</a> first appeared on <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org">The Interpreter Foundation</a>.<br/><a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-20-2022/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="https://cdn.interpreterfoundation.org/ifaudio/Interpreter-Radio-advocacy-221120.mp3" length="13804693" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:10:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_75360</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Interpreter Radio Show — November 13, 2022</title><link>https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-13-2022/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Administration</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>&#160; In this episode, our hosts Terry Hutchinson, John Gee and Kevin Christensen discussed Kevin&#8217;s article in the Interpreter Journal on Margaret Barker. You can listen to or download the November 13th broadcast of the Interpreter Radio Show below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The second portion of the show [&#8230;]</p>
The post <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-13-2022/">Interpreter Radio Show — November 13, 2022</a> first appeared on <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org">The Interpreter Foundation</a>.<br/><a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-radio-show-november-13-2022/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="https://cdn.interpreterfoundation.org/ifaudio/Interpreter-Radio-221113.mp3" length="46790373" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:01:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_75339</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Interpreting Interpreter: Two Decades of Margaret Barker</title><link>https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreting-interpreter-two-decades-of-margaret-barker/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Kyler Rasmussen</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>This post is a summary of the article “Twenty Years After “Paradigms Regained,” Part 1: The Ongoing, Plain, and Precious Significance of Margaret Barker’s Scholarship for Latter-day Saint Studies” by Kevin Christensen in Volume 54 of Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship. An introduction to the Interpreting Interpreter series is available at [&#8230;]</p>
The post <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreting-interpreter-two-decades-of-margaret-barker/">Interpreting Interpreter: Two Decades of Margaret Barker</a> first appeared on <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org">The Interpreter Foundation</a>.<br/><a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreting-interpreter-two-decades-of-margaret-barker/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description></item><item><pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2022 10:59:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_75338</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Twenty Years After “Paradigms Regained,” Part 1: The Ongoing, Plain, and Precious Significance of Margaret Barker’s Scholarship for Latter-day Saint Studies</title><link>https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/twenty-years-after-paradigms-regained-part-1-the-ongoing-plain-and-precious-significance-of-margaret-barkers-scholarship-for-latter-day-saint-studies/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Kevin Christensen</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>Abstract: Twenty years ago, the Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies published “Paradigms Regained: A&#160;Survey of Margaret Barker’s Scholarship and Its Significance for Mormon Studies” as its second FARMS Occasional Paper. The first part of this essay provides an overview of Doctor Barker’s scholarship and its wider reception through early 2022, and then includes [&#8230;]</p>
The post <a href="https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/twenty-years-after-paradigms-regained-part-1-the-ongoing-plain-and-precious-significance-of-margaret-barkers-scholarship-for-latter-day-saint-studies/">Twenty Years After “Paradigms Regained,” Part 1: The Ongoing, Plain, and Precious Significance of Margaret Barker’s Scholarship for Latter-day Saint Studies</a> first appeared on <a href="https://interpreterfoundation.org">The Interpreter Foundation</a>.<br/><a href="https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/twenty-years-after-paradigms-regained-part-1-the-ongoing-plain-and-precious-significance-of-margaret-barkers-scholarship-for-latter-day-saint-studies/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>
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							]]></description><enclosure url="https://cdn.interpreterfoundation.org/jnlartaudio/christensen-v54-2022-pp1-64-AUDIO.mp3" length="28802323" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:20:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_67718</guid><title>Mormanity: Further Notes on One of the Earliest Hebrew Texts, the Silver Amulets of Ketef Hinnom</title><link>https://mormanity.blogspot.com/2019/01/further-notes-on-one-of-earliest-hebrew.html</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Jeff Lindsay</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[Last year I discussed an intriguing archaeological find near Jerusalem: two inscriptions on silver amulets which appear to be the oldest Hebrew inscriptions found so far. See "<a href="https://mormanity.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-oldest-hebrew-inscription-and.html">The Oldest Hebrew Inscription and the Psalms in the Book of Mormon</a>," <i>Mormanity</i>, June 3, 2018. This discovery impacts several arguments that have been levied to argue against the ancient origins of the Book of Mormon. Now I have an update from some recent publications. <br /><br />The silver amulets from Ketef Hinnom by Jerusalem are mentioned in an important work of scholarship, a book review by Kevin Christensen, "<a href="https://www.mormoninterpreter.com/light-and-perspective-essays-from-the-mormon-theology-seminar-on-1-nephi-1-and-jacob-7/#comment-64551" target="_blank">Light and Perspective: Essays from the Mormon Theology Seminar on 1 Nephi 1 and Jacob 7</a>," <i>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship</i> 31 (2019): 25-70. I recommend reading this essay for much that it reveals about thoughtful LDS scholarship regarding the Book of Mormon. In one section, while discussing the work of Margaret Barker and her  quest to understand the nature of Jewish religion in the First Temple  period, especially before Josiah's violent reforms that may have opposed  some of the more visionary ways pursued by "old fashioned" prophets  like Lehi, Christensen makes a noteworthy point regarding the silver  amulets and their relationship to the Book of Mormon:  <br /><blockquote>Barker explores tensions within the Bible on basic questions such as whether it was possible to see God. [Margaret Barker, <i>The Great Angel: A Study of Israel's Second God</i> (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox Press, 1992), 30, and Margaret Barker, <i>Temple Mysticism: An Introduction</i> (London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 2011), 54-55] <br /><br />Deuteronomy denies emphatically that the Lord was seen by Moses at  Sinai: "You heard the sound of words but you saw no form" (Deut.4:12).  The earlier account in Exodus 24 says that Moses and the elders did see  the God of Israel. We assume that the Deuteronomists would also have  denied Isaiah's claim that he had seen the Lord in the temple, and  disagreed with Jesus when he said that the pure in heart would see God.  [Margaret Barker, "<a href="http://www.templestudiesgroup.com/Papers/2Jul11_TempleHiddenInKings.pdf" target="_blank">The Temple Hidden in 1 Kings</a>" (paper, Temple Studies Group, July 2, 2011), 2] <br /><br />One of the secrets of the priesthood must have been experiencing  theophany, something described in the ancient priestly blessing: "May  the LORD make his face/presence shine on you" (Numbers 6:25-26). At  the end of the second temple period, this was one of the forbidden  texts, which could be read in public, but not explained. (m. Megillah  4:10) [Barker, "<a href="http://www.margaretbarker.com/Papers/SecretTradition.pdf" target="_blank">The Secret Tradition</a>" in <i>The Great High Priest: Temple Roots of Christian Liturgy</i> (London: T&amp;T Clark, 2003), 16] <br /><br />It should be of interest that this priestly blessing in Numbers turns up  in "Excavations in the late 1970s" of "First Temple period tombs at  Ketef Hinnom, near Jerusalem. Among the artifacts discovered in this dig  were two small silver plates dating to the seventh century BC,  containing the priestly benedictions found in Numbers 6:24-26 and  representing the 'earliest fragments of the biblical text known up to  the present.'" [See William Hamblin, "<a href="https://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1461&amp;index=7" target="_blank">Sacred Writing on Metal Plates in the Ancient Mediterranean</a>," <i>FARMS Review</i> 19, no. 1 (2007).] That is, the oldest Biblical text known not only  turns out to be writing on metal dating to Lehi's day and quoting from a  Book of Moses (making it relevant to the story of the Brass Plates),  but it also contains a passage central to a key controversy from that  time, faithfully reflected in 1 Nephi 1:8, and relevant to a climactic  moment of the Book of Mormon as a whole in 3 Nephi 19:25, 30 when Jesus  as Lord is present and shining at the temple.</blockquote>I find that fascinating news for students of the Book of Mormon.<br /><br />At nearly the same time as Christensen's article, Robert Boylan in his <a href="https://scripturalmormonism.blogspot.com/2019/01/ronald-hendel-and-jan-joosten-on.html" target="_blank">Jan. 18, 2019 post at <i>Scriptural Mormonism</i></a> noted the significance of these amulets in light of the commentary from  two other scholars published by Yale University Press in 2018:<br /><blockquote>Commenting on the silver amulets discovered at Ketef Hinnom, Ronald Hendel and Jan Joosten wrote:<br /><blockquote>The archaeological and paleographical evidence agree in  dating these inscriptions to the late seventh or early sixth century  BCE. These tiny amulets contain prayers that are closely related to the  Priestly and Deueronomic texts. <br /><br />The first amulet begins: <br /><blockquote>יהו [. . . ] גד [. . . ] הברית ו[. . . ] חסד לאהב [. . .] ושמרי [. . .]ד העלמ<br />Yahwe[h . . .] grea[t . . . ] the covenant and [. . . ] steadfast love for those who love [. . . ] and keep [ . . .f]orever</blockquote>This sequence is close to the language of Deut 7:9: <br /><blockquote>יְהוָה . . . שֹׁמֵר הַבְּרִית וְהַחֶסֶד לְאֹהֲבָיו וּלְשֹׁמְרֵי מִצְוֹתָיו לְאֶלֶף דּוֹר<br />Yahweh . . . who keeps the covenant, and steadfast love for those who love him and who keep his commandments, to the thousandth generation.</blockquote>The Deuteronomy passage is, in turn, related to--and perhaps an allusion  to--the Deuteronomic language in the First Commandment (Exod 20:6 =  Deut 5:10). Close echoes of the language of Deuteronomy and the  Decalogue are here found in a preexilic inscription. This does not mean  that the amulet itself is necessarily quoting or alluding to the book of  Deuteronomy, but it does show that Deuteronomic formulations were  current in the late preexilic period. This amulet echoes the  C[lassical]B[iblical]H[ebrew] language of Deuteronomy and is consilient  with the preexilic context of the core of Deuteronomy. If one holds that  Deuteronomy and the Deuteronomic movement were products of the Persian  period or later, then this parallel language is a problem. <br /><br />This condition also holds for the near-verbatim quotation of the  Priestly Benediction in both amulets. We infer that this prayer, found  in Num 6:24-26, must have been current in late seventh-century or early  sixth-century Jerusalem. An historical model that places the composition  of D and P in the Persian or Hellenistic period lacks consilience with  these data and inferences. For this reason, some scholars who date the  composition of the Hebrew Bible to these later periods also hold that  the Ketef Hinnom inscriptions date to the Hellenistic period. But the  late dating of these inscriptions does not withstand scrutiny. By  extension the same criticism holds for the late-dating model as a whole.  (Ronald Hendel and Jan Joosten, <i><a href="https://amzn.to/2W3quD6" target="_blank">How Old is the Hebrew Bible? A Linguistic, Textual, and Historical Study</a></i> [New Haven: Yale University Press, 2018], 123-24)</blockquote>In other words, these amulets are indeed pre-exilic in origin, and,  among many other things, a witness that at least some portions of the P  source pre-dates the exile, something consistent with the Book of  Mormon.</blockquote>As I noted previously, Israeli archaeologist Gabriel Barkay in "<a href="https://members.bib-arch.org/biblical-archaeology-review/35/4/4" target="_blank">The Riches of Ketef Hinnom,</a>" <i>Biblical Archaeology Review</i>, 35:4 (July/August September/October 2009) observed:  <br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">[Each of the] texts of the two inscriptions ... contains slight  variations of parts of the three blessings that appear in the famous  priestly blessing from Numbers 6:24–26:<br /><blockquote class="block"><div class="poetry">The Lord bless you and keep you.</div><div class="poetry">The Lord make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you.</div><div class="poetry">The Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace.</div></blockquote>These are the words with which observant Jews still bless their  children before the Sabbath meal on Friday night and that are also used  in prayers in synagogues....<br /><br />The amulets can be securely dated on a combination of three grounds.  Paleographically they can be dated by the shape and form of the letters  to the late seventh century B.C.E., before the Babylonian conquest.  Stratigraphically the first amulet was found only about 7 centimeters  (less than 3 in.) above the repository floor, which testifies to its  relative antiquity within the repository assemblages, which rose to  about 2 feet total. The second plaque was found in the innermost part of  the repository, far from the entrance, among the earliest deposits.  Finally, the date suggested paleographically corresponds to the  chronological horizon of the late Iron Age pottery found in the  repository. The silver plaques thus come from the late seventh century  B.C.E., or the time of the prophet Jeremiah and King Josiah.<br /><br />The implications of this dating are startling. First of all, it means  that these texts on our silver plaques are the oldest composition of  words similar to Biblical verses in existence. The earliest Biblical  texts among the Dead Sea Scrolls date to about 250 B.C.E. at the  earliest. That means that our texts are older than the next oldest  Biblical texts by nearly 400 years.<br /><br />Moreover, these inscriptions are the only texts of the First Temple period with clear similarities to Biblical verses.<br /><br />This has important implications for the Biblical text. The  Pentateuch, or Five Books of Moses, is usually divided by text-critical  scholars into four source strands, labeled J (for Yahwist, or Jahwist in  German), E (for Elohist), D (for Deuteronomist) and P (for the Priestly  Code). The priestly blessing from Numbers, which is quoted in our  silver plaques, is generally considered part of P, the Priestly Code.  (So, too, the passage from Deuteronomy 7:9, which has echoes in the larger silver amulet.)<br /><br />There is a major scholarly disagreement as to the date of the  Priestly Code. Some scholars contend it predates the Babylonian  conquest. Others say it is later. Our two texts seem to support those  who contend that the Priestly Code was already in existence, at least in  rudimentary form, in the First Temple period.<br /><br />The priestly blessing seems to have been widely used during the First  Temple period. Its influence can be traced both in the Bible itself  (see Psalm 67:1, for  example) and in early Hebrew epigraphy. In addition to our references,  an inscription painted on a large pithos at Kuntillet ‘Ajrud in the  Sinai Peninsula contains the Hebrew words YBRK wYŠ MRK wYHY ‘M ’DNY,  which can be translated as “[may God] bless you and keep you and be with  my Lord.” This, too, dates to the First Temple period.<br /><br />The Ketef Hinnom excavations have made an enormous contribution, not  only to our understanding of life in Jerusalem more than 2,500 years  ago, but also to our understanding of the development of the text of the  Hebrew Bible. </blockquote>Psalm 67:1, as noted above, is strongly related to the inscriptions. The KJV is: "God be merciful unto us, and bless us; <i id="yui-gen36">and</i> cause his face to shine upon us; Selah." Allusions to this Psalm, and perhaps to the concepts on those silver amulets, are built into the Book of Mormon scene where Christ visits the Nephits are literally shines upon them in <a href="https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/19.25?lang=eng#p24" target="_blank">3 Nephi 19:25</a>, after Jesus had prayed with his chosen disciples:<br /><blockquote>And it came to pass that Jesus blessed them as they did  pray unto him; and his&nbsp;countenance&nbsp;did smile upon them, and the light of  his&nbsp;countenance&nbsp;did&nbsp;shine&nbsp;upon them, and behold they were as&nbsp;white&nbsp;as  the countenance and also the garments of Jesus...</blockquote><br />These tiny silver documents show that in Lehi's day, writing on metal was known, and specifically the writing of a religious text on metal.&nbsp; It shows that some passages of the Bible said to have origins long after the Exile may have had roots before the Exile, consistent with the Book of Mormon. They also help us shows that the very early, First Temple period view that one could see God and have His face shine upon the faithful was literally and appropriately realized in the Book of Mormon, a book that not only helped restore the Gospel of Jesus Christ but continues in some ways to help restore our knowledge of the much more ancient religion among some faithful Jews, contributing significantly to the field that Margaret Barker has been so thoroughly exploring.<br/><a href="https://mormanity.blogspot.com/2019/01/further-notes-on-one-of-earliest-hebrew.html">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description></item><item><pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 17:15:00 -0700</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_65742</guid><title>Mormanity: Another Reversal: Why Is King David So Absent in Book of Mormon Discourse?</title><link>http://mormanity.blogspot.com/2018/04/another-reversal-why-is-king-david-so.html</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Jeff Lindsay</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[One of the many curious aspects of the Book of Mormon is the frequency with which arguments against it suffer "reversals" and, upon further investigation, actually become evidences in favor of the plausibility and antiquity of the text. Just a few examples include almost every aspect of Lehi's Trail (the River Laman, the "more fertile parts," the place Nahom and its eastward turn, and especially the place Bountiful), along with other issues such as "the land of Jerusalem" instead of Bethlehem <strike>Bountiful</strike> as the birthplace of Christ, the girl's name Alma for a man, the bad grammar of the dictated text, the very idea of writing on gold plates, the lack of barley in the New World, cities of cement, etc.<br /><br />One recent attack on the Book of Mormon may be another example of a reversal. I have previously discussed a recent thesis from a <a href="http://mormanity.blogspot.com/2017/03/david-and-psalms-in-book-of-mormon.html" target="_blank">young Bible scholar criticizing the Book of Mormon for its failure to emphasize King David and make heavy use of the Psalms</a>. In reviewing that work recently, it struck me that his argument regarding David really makes a lot of sense from the perspective of a modern reader familiar with the Bible, whether it is a young theologian at a Baptist seminary or a young Joseph Smith in a society familiar with the Bible. In our modern environment and in Joseph Smith's, anyone familiar with the Bible should notice that kings in the Old Testament are routinely evaluated by comparison to King David. David was a big deal to the ancient Jews. Strangely, he gets almost no attention in the Book of Mormon, and even gets criticized rather than held up as a glorious example. Kevin Beshears at the Southern  Baptist Theological Seminary finds that to be powerful evidence against the Book of Mormon as an ancient Hebrew text, as he explains in detail in his thesis, "<a href="http://digital.library.sbts.edu/bitstream/handle/10392/5176/Beshears_sbts_0207N_10331.pdf?sequence=1" rel="nofollow">Davidic References in the Book of Mormon as Evidence Against its Historicity</a>."<br /><br />What Beshears overlooks is extensive, but one key gap is failure to recognize that in light of modern scholarship, there are good reasons why a group of Hebrews like Lehi's family with roots from the Northern Kingdom and the tribe of Joseph would not buy into the ruling paradigm among the Judeans regarding the greatness of David and the majesty of the so-called Davidic covenant, which allegedly guaranteed the Israelites that they would be safe and a king would remain on David's throne no matter how bad their behavior. <br /><br />A basic problem in Beshears' work is assuming that there is a “typical” type of Bible text that should be found wherever we look in the Bible, when that is simply not the case. As mentioned above, a large number of books in both the Old and New Testament fail to mention David at all. Since some authors see the Davidic Covenant as central and all-important,<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn1" name="_ednref1">[i]</a> Beshears’ perspective is understandable. But there is not a uniform urge to turn to David and the Davidic covenant of an everlasting throne in Jerusalem, even in books like Daniel that look forward to the end days and the final victory of God. For example, the wisdom literature, a type of literature Beshears errantly claimed was absent in the Book of Mormon but in fact shows a strong influence, tends to ignore the Davidic covenant, as Daniel Peterson noted in his widely cited exploration of some aspects of wisdom traditions embedded in the Book of Mormon:<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">Biblical scholars recognize a genre of writing, found both in the canonical scriptures (e.g., Job, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Song of Solomon) and beyond the canon, that they term “wisdom literature.” Among the characteristics of this type of writing, not surprisingly, is the frequent use of the term <i>wisdom.</i> But also common to such literature, and very striking in texts from a Hebrew cultural background, is <i>the absence</i> of typically Israelite or Jewish themes, such as the promises to the patriarchs, the story of Moses and the exodus, the covenant at Sinai, and <i>the divine promise to David</i>. There is, however, a strong emphasis on the teaching of parents, and especially on the instruction of the father. [<i>emphasis added</i>]<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn2" name="_ednref2">[ii]</a></blockquote>Since the wisdom-heavy founding documents of the Nephite people paid little attention to the Davidic covenant, it should not be a surprise to see other writers like Alma follow suit in their emphasis of similar themes (including the exodus, not normally emphasized in wisdom literature but obviously an important issue for Nephi and Lehi as they made a literal exodus to a promised land) and a lack of emphasis on the Davidic covenant. This is not to say that any Book of Mormon author wrote exclusively in the wisdom tradition, but there is a significant thread of wisdom influence in the book.<br /><br />Several more noteworthy factors may contribute to the relative lack of interest in David among Nephite writers. Lehi was not a Jew from David’s tribe of Judah, but was descended from the tribe of Joseph, probably with roots in the northern kingdom, where there was less respect for descendants of David on the throne in Jerusalem. More importantly, Lehi may not have accepted some aspects of Josiah’s reforms that began in 622 B.C. These “Deuteronomist” reforms, triggered by the “discovery” of a book of the law in the temple, believed to be the source of our Book of Deuteronomy, sought to impose centralized worship in Jerusalem and may have introduced the concept of the David covenant — the idea that God would always keep a king descended from David on the throne of Jerusalem, no matter how bad those kings might be. Josiah’s reforms were actually violent, causing many priests to be killed and sacred relics from the temple to be forcefully destroyed.<br /><br />Non-LDS scholar Margaret Barker argues that Josiah’s reforms were largely destroying many of the things in the old Jewish faith, including the idea of the temple as the place where the presence of God could be encountered, the idea of visions and angels that minister to prophets, and the wisdom tradition.<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn3" name="_ednref3">[iii]</a> She argues that the reformers, the Deuteronomists, took out much in early Jewish faith during their violent purges. Barker also points to many ways in which the writings of Nephi comply with results of her own research about pre-exilic Jewish religion.<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn4" name="_ednref4">[iv]</a> Although LDS scholars disagree with her assessment of Josiah,<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn5" name="_ednref5">[v]</a> if she is right, then Lehi the man of visions, the seeker of wisdom, would naturally be at odds with the Deuteronomists and their scribes, who shaped a great deal of the Bible.<br /><br />Modern scholarship on the origins of the Bible, including the theories related to the Documentary Hypothesis, provides some related insights that can help us understand the significance of the David Covenant that Beshears expects the Book of Mormon to emphasize. In Richard Elliot Friedman’s famous <i>Who Wrote the Bible?</i>, the mystery behind the centralization of worship and the Davidic covenant is unraveled in several intriguing steps.<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn6" name="_ednref6">[vi]</a><br /><br />There is a mystery here, for in spite of the strict command in Deuteronomy to centralize worship in Jerusalem, we find David, Saul, Solomon, and Samuel making sacrifices in other places as if they had no awareness of this fundamental command attributed to Moses. This and other issues have led multiple scholars to conclude that the long-lost book of the law that was mysteriously found in the temple during Josiah’s reign was in fact composed at that time, being written by someone close to Josiah. And textual and thematic evidence also suggests that the author or school that produced Deuteronomy also produced the following six books: Joshua, Judges, 1 and 2 Samuel, and 1 and 2 Kings. The Davidic covenant given in 2 Samuel 7 was part of that effort. This comes from the Deuteronomists, and not from the other sources proposed for the Bible in the various versions of the Documentary Hypothesis.<br /><br />The Davidic covenant only makes sense if it was written before the exile, when the confident Jews felt the holy city of Jerusalem could never fall. Lehi, warned of Jerusalem’s destruction, obviously did not see things that way.<br /><br />An interesting thing about the Deuteronomists, according to Friedman, is how much emphasis they gave to David. In their writings, every king is evaluated by comparison to David. But that emphasis stops after Josiah, possibly because the bulk of the Deuteronomists writings (most of seven books in all) were done in that day, with only minor additions required to cover the tragic fall of Judah and the last four disastrous kings following Josiah. Friedman explains:<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">That is not the only thing that changes after the story of Josiah. King David figures in a fundamental way in the Deuteronomistic history. Half of the book of 1 Samuel, all of the book of 2 Samuel, and the first chapters of 1 Kings deal with his life. The majority of the kings who come after him are compared to him. The historian states explicitly, several times, that because of David’s merit even a bad king of Judah cannot lose the throne for the family. Especially among the last few kings down to the time of Josiah, the historian reminds us of David. He compares Josiah himself to David, saying, “We went in all the path of David his father.” … Altogether the name David occurs about five hundred times in the Deuteronomistic history. Then, in the story of the last four kings, it stops. The text does not compare these kings to David. It does not refer to the Davidic covenant, let alone explain why it does not save the throne now the way it did in the reigns of Solomon, Rehoboam, Abijam, and Jehoram. It does not mention David at all.<br /><br />Thus two common, crucial matters in the Deuteronomistic history — centralization and David — disappear after the Josiah section.<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn7" name="_ednref7">[vii]</a></blockquote>Friedman explains that caution is needed in applying arguments from silence, but here the silence is deafening. When every king is compared to David, and then suddenly the last four kings are not, and when centralization is viewed as essential up to Josiah and then suddenly is not, “we have evidence of a real break and a change of perspective that are connected to that king.”<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn8" name="_ednref8">[viii]</a><br /><br />While there are some details in the Documentary Hypothesis that can easily be questioned, especially the dating for various sources, the possibility of multiple versions of documents and competing agendas influencing the Bible is actually consistent with information we obtain from the Book of Mormon, not only in terms of how ancient sources were pulled together, but in terms of its report of loss and change that would occur in the records of the Jews.<br /><br />However the Bible was composed, there is strong evidence that references to David and the Davidic covenant are highly nonuniform in the Bible, and are most concentrated in the documents that are considered to be most influenced by the Deuteronomists. Seeing Lehi as an adherent to the old visionary ways opposed by the Deuteronomists can also help us understand why he might not have bought the new agenda of centralization and the new emphasis on the confident claims of those touting a David covenant that would keep the throne safe, no matter what. The Book of Mormon’s relative silence on David, though not as silent as many other legitimate biblical books, is consistent with the view based largely on Barker’s work that 1 Nephi accurately portrays the complex religious differences and tensions present in pre-exilic Jerusalem, with some groups not accepting the new reforms and possibly not accepting a new emphasis on security through the Davidic covenant.<br /><br />Jon Levenson’s review of modern scholarship on the problem of the Davidic Covenant reminds us that its presence and influence in the scriptures is not as broad as some seem to assume:<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">The dynastic Davidic Covenant is of another character. There are only a handful of passages that show awareness of it, and the only two that set it out in any detail at all are those we have already discussed, 2 Samuel 7 and Psalm 89…. Several considerations, however, militate against the idea that this indicates that the Davidic Covenant commanded the same degree of public awareness and loyalty as the Sinaitic. First, we must notice that Abraham himself was the object of far less attention in the history of the tradition than was Moses. For Abraham, for example, we have nothing even remotely resembling Elijah’s rehearsal of Moses’ pilgrimage to Sinai/Horeb (1 Kings 19) or the great pseudonymous Mosaic address that has come to be called Deuteronomy. The second point to bear in mind is that the expansion of the empire is not quite the same thing as the Davidic Covenant. In certain Israelite circles, by no means small or ephemeral, kingship came to be as important as we know it was elsewhere in the ancient Near East. But to say that kingship was central and even that in Judah it happened to be held almost always by a Davidide is very different from the assertion that the Davidic Covenant, with all it entails, was a central concern. The truth is that most glorifications of David or his reign do not mention a covenant. In fact, the only reference to an “eternal covenant” with David in the books of Samuel is in the so-called “Latter Words of David” (2 Sam 23:1–7), and it is by no means certain that even this obscure reference (v. 5) signifies the dynastic commitment of 2 Samuel 7 and Psalm 89. In short, kingship and the Davidic dynasty were not synonymous.<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn9" name="_ednref9">[ix]</a></blockquote>He also explains that in the daily and religious life of an Israelite, the issue of the Davidic covenant was minor compared to the covenant at Sinai:<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">Even in the religious consciousness of an Israelite for whom kingship was of central importance, the entitlement of the House of David could remain peripheral. That is why, despite the presence of a great quantity of material bearing on royal theology, the specific covenant with David is expounded in clear form so very rarely. Not all royal theology was Davidic, and not all Davidic theology was covenantal. The average Israelite could probably live his life without giving any more attention to the Davidic Covenant than the average American gives to the 25th amendment to the Constitution, which also at- tempts to regulate the matter of succession to the most important office in the land. The same cannot be said of the Sinaitic Covenant. Therefore, it is wrong to assume, as Bright, for example, does, that emphasis on one must have been at the expense of the other, just as it is wrong to assume, with all the scholars I term “integrationists,” that the dynastic oracle of 2 Samuel 7 and Psalm 89 rests upon an acute consciousness of the Sinaitic Covenant. It appears that the importance of the Davidic-messianic material in subsequent Judaism and especially in Christianity has led scholars to exaggerate its importance (relative to the Sinaitic material) in the Hebrew Bible, even to the extent of their imagining that the two covenants must have been in some kind of constant conversation, either harmonious or discordant.<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn10" name="_ednref10">[x]</a></blockquote>As for the centralization of worship that Josiah imposed, Lehi and Nephi obviously had no qualms with ritual worship outside of Jerusalem, even to the point of building a temple in the New World, just as Jews at Elephantine in Egypt did.<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn11" name="_ednref11">[xi]</a> In fact, Lehi was so at odds with the reigning religious establishment in Jerusalem that his life was in danger. His “apostasy” might have included rejecting some aspects of Josiah’s reforms that began just a few decades before his exodus. Again, what we find in the writings of Nephi makes a good deal of sense in the context of pre-exilic Israel, based on still-tentative research from Margaret Barker and others.<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_edn12" name="_ednref12">[xii]</a><br /><br />Joseph Smith could have known none of this. If he were making up the Book of Mormon based on average familiarity with the Bible in his day, or even above average graduate-student level familiarity with the Bible in our day, it is indeed reasonable that we would expect him to pick up on the extensive mentions of David, most of which occur in Deuteronomistic writings, and to then imitate that in the Book of Mormon. Praising King David and comparing good and bad kings to him would be the natural thing to do for a Bible-sponge imitating all things biblical.<br /><br />Beshears’ puzzlement about David in the Book of Mormon is understandable. It is only through deeper understanding of the complexities behind that statistics on David’s name that we realize the Bible is highly nonuniform regarding David, that there are reasons for sudden changes in the text regarding David, and that there may be good reasons why ancient faithful Hebrews from the tribe of Joseph, ill at ease with the southern Kingdom Jews and their recent violent religious reforms, might not follow suit with the Deuteronomistic writings and their constant awe for David. Those Hebrews, clinging to the old ways of prophecy, revelation, temple worship, and wisdom literature, would respect David as a great but fallen king, and could be frank about his disobedience without betraying their Hebrew roots. They could appreciate the parallels between the young righteous David and Nephi, and could name a land after David, but had no need to make David a touchstone of their faith.<br /><br />Once again, it seems we have a reversal. A terrible blunder in the Book of Mormon, one that anybody well-schooled in the Bible ought to have avoided, turns out to be just the kind of thing that makes sense for a text from the ancient world with the added complexity of having been written by people derived from the Northern Kingdom and came from the traditions that were being overthrown by the Deuteronomists before and as Lehi escaped Jerusalem.&nbsp; The role of David in the Book of Mormon is a subtle evidence that it is indeed an ancient text, not a modern forgery. <br /><br /><b>References:</b><br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref1" name="_edn1">[i]</a> Michael A. Grisanti, “The Davidic Covenant,” <i>The Master’s Seminary Journal</i>, 10/2 (Fall 1999) 233–250.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref2" name="_edn2">[ii]</a> Daniel C. Peterson, "<a href="http://publications.mi.byu.edu/publications/jbms/9/2/S00003-50be458eb2b313Peterson.pdf" target="_blank">Nephi and His Asherah</a>," <i>Journal of Book of Mormon Studies</i> 9/2 (2000): 16–25, 80–81, quotation at 23; http://publications.mi.byu.edu/publications/jbms/9/2/S00003-50be458eb2b313Peterson.pdf.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref3" name="_edn3">[iii]</a> Margaret Barker, “<a href="https://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1081&amp;index=16" target="_blank">What Did King Josiah Reform?</a>“ in <i>Glimpses of Lehi’s Jerusalem</i>, ed. Jo Ann H. Seely, David Rolph Seely, and John W. Welch (Provo, UT: Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies, Brigham Young University, 2004) 521–42; http://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1081&amp;index=16. See also Neal Rappleye, “<a href="http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/the-deuteronomist-reforms-and-lehis-family-dynamics-a-social-context-for-the-rebellions-of-laman-and-lemuel/" target="_blank">The Deuteronomist Reforms and Lehi’s Family Dynamics: A Social Context for the Rebellions of Laman and Lemuel</a>,” <i>Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture</i> 16 (2015): 87–99; http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/the-deuteronomist-reforms-and-lehis-family-dynamics-a-social-context-for-the-rebellions-of-laman-and-lemuel/ as well as Kevin Christensen, “<a href="http://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1081&amp;index=15" target="_blank">The Temple, the Monarchy, and Wisdom: Lehi’s World and the Scholarship of Margaret Barker</a>,” in <i>Glimpses of Lehi’s Jerusalem</i>, 449–522; http://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1081&amp;index=15 and Kevin Christensen, “<a href="http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/prophets-and-kings-in-lehis-jerusalem-and-margaret-barkers-temple-theology/" target="_blank">Prophets and Kings in Lehi’s Jerusalem and Margaret Barker’s Temple Theology</a>,” <i>Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture</i> 4 (2013): 177–93; http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/prophets-and-kings-in-lehis-jerusalem-and-margaret-barkers-temple-theology/.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref4" name="_edn4">[iv]</a> Margaret Barker, “<a href="https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/joseph-smith-and-preexilic-israelite-religion" target="_blank">Joseph Smith and Preexilic Israelite Religion</a>,” in <i>The Worlds of Joseph Smith: The Worlds of Joseph Smith: A Bicentennial Conference at the Library of Congress</i>, ed. John S. Welch (Provo, UT: Brigham Young University Press: 2006), Kindle edition. See also Margaret Barker, “Joseph Smith and Preexilic Israelite Religion,” <i>BYU Studies</i> 44/4 (2005): 69–82; https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/joseph-smith-and-preexilic-israelite-religion.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref5" name="_edn5">[v]</a> For examples of scholars who view Josiah positively, see William J. Hamblin, “<a href="http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/vindicating-josiah/" target="_blank">Vindicating Josiah</a>,” <i>Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture</i> 4 (2013): 165–176; http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/vindicating-josiah/; and David Rolph Seely and Jo Ann H. Seely, “<a href="http://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1081&amp;index=12" target="_blank">Lehi and Jeremiah: Prophets Priests and Patriarchs</a>” in John W. Welch and David Rolph Seely and Ann H. Seely, eds., <i>Glimpses of Lehi’s Jerusalem</i> (Provo, UT: FARMS 2004), 357–80; http://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1081&amp;index=12.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref6" name="_edn6">[vi]</a> Richard Elliot Friedman, <i>Who Wrote the Bible?</i> (New York: Harper Collins, 1997, originally published 1987), 91–124.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref7" name="_edn7">[vii]</a> Ibid., 115.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref8" name="_edn8">[viii]</a> Ibid.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref9" name="_edn9">[ix]</a> Jon D. Levenson, “<a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/43714665" target="_blank">The Davidic Covenant and its Modern Interpreters</a>,” <i>The Catholic Biblical Quarterly</i> 41/2 (April 1979): 205–19, citation at 216–7; http://www.jstor.org/stable/43714665.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref10" name="_edn10">[x]</a> Ibid., 217–8.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref11" name="_edn11">[xi]</a> Jared W. Ludlow, “<a href="http://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/jbms/vol16/iss2/5" target="_blank">A Tale of Three Communities: Jerusalem, Elephantine, and Lehi-Nephi</a>,” <i>Journal of Book of Mormon Studies</i> 16/2 (2007): 28–41, 95; http://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/jbms/vol16/iss2/5. See also Jeff Lindsay, “<a href="http://www.jefflindsay.com/bme20.shtml" target="_blank">Lessons from the Elephantine Papyri Regarding Book of Mormon Names and Nephi's Temple</a>,” <i>JeffLindsay.com</i>, May 22, 2004; http://www.jefflindsay.com/bme20.shtml.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=7139169#_ednref12" name="_edn12">[xii]</a> Margaret Barker, “What Did King Josiah Reform?”; Margaret Barker, “Joseph Smith and Preexilic Israelite Religion”; and Kevin Christensen, “Prophets and Kings in Lehi’s Jerusalem.”<br/><a href="http://mormanity.blogspot.com/2018/04/another-reversal-why-is-king-david-so.html">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description></item><item><pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:59:00 -0800</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_61532</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: Video of Margaret Barker’s Speech, “Theosis &amp;amp; Divinization,” Now Available - Administration</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mormoninterpretermp3/~3/4egL1y0Lq1k/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Administration</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[  &#13;
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		The video of Margaret Barker’s public speech, “Theosis &amp; Divinization,” is now available for viewing. It was given on November 9, 2016, in the Varsity Theatre at BYU in Provo, Utah. Responses to her speech follow from David Larsen, Daniel C. Peterson, and Andrew C. Skinner. More details about the event can be found at this link. You can watch the speech embedded below, on our YouTube channel. Audio of the speech...<br/><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mormoninterpretermp3/~3/4egL1y0Lq1k/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Barker-Theosis-Divinization.mp3" length="40650097" type="audio/mpeg"/></item><item><pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2015 14:36:00 -0700</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_55912</guid><title>Heavenly Ascents: Two Great Scholars Speak to Interpreter Gathering</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscents/~3/UeiswYtLLN8/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>David Larsen</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[<p>I had the opportunity to be at a gathering for the Interpreter online journal early in August where scholars Margaret Barker and Stephen Webb addressed the group in a Q&amp;A format. It was an intriguing discussion. Margaret Barker, a Methodist scholar and founder of the Temple Study Group in England, has become a favorite among many Latter-day Saints for her exciting work on the temple, pre-exilic Israelite religion, and the connections between early Israelite temple worship and Christian theology. Stephen Webb may not currently be as familiar to Latter-day Saints, but he certainly should be. He has done a lot of research on Joseph Smith and, fortunately (I won&#8217;t say &#8220;surprisingly&#8221; because it shouldn&#8217;t be surprising that those who study the life and teachings of the Prophet come to admire him), really admires him.</p>
<p>The video is great and I highly recommend taking the time to watch it.</p>
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</div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/HeavenlyAscents/~4/UeiswYtLLN8" height="1" width="1" alt="" /><br/><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscents/~3/UeiswYtLLN8/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description></item><item><pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 10:00:00 -0700</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:nothingwavering.org,2009-01-12:_55906</guid><title>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship: An Evening with Margaret Barker &amp;amp; Stephen Webb - Administration</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mormoninterpretermp3/~3/GhNz80AN-_8/</link><author>noreply@nothingwavering.org (No Reply)</author><dc:creator>Administration</dc:creator><description><![CDATA[On Saturday, 8 August 2015, about ninety people gathered in Orem, Utah, to celebrate The Interpreter Foundation’s third birthday. Among those in attendance were Dr. Margaret L. Barker and Dr. Stephen H. Webb. After dinner, it was my privilege to moderate a brief question-and-answer session with Drs. Barker and Webb. Here is that discussion. <a href="http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/an-evening-with-margaret-barker-stephen-webb/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/mormoninterpretermp3/~4/GhNz80AN-_8" height="1" width="1" alt="" /><br/><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mormoninterpretermp3/~3/GhNz80AN-_8/">Continue reading at the original source →</a>]]></description><enclosure url="http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/An-Evening-with-Margaret-Barker-Stephen-Webb.mp3" length="16794982" type="audio/mpeg"/></item></channel></rss>